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Harold Camping
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Aug '98
 
GOD had me read a tract from your ministry which is sadly flawed, quoting
1Jn1:9 from the current mistranslation, 100% contrary to His full truth as
proved in Mat6:12-15; 18:35 Mk11:25,26 Eph4:32 Col2:11-13, if living 1Jn3:6.
 
GOD in flesh, Jesus, is our example, forgiving thru great torture Lk23:34, copied
by Stephen Acts7:60, yet the Judas church teaches mere confession for His forgiveness,
nowhere stated in His original word, nor even closely supported by other scriptures.
 
GOD in 2Chr7:14 set His standard for forgiveness, rarely believed and taught.
 
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GOD's full gospel was rejected by Camping who has followed satan into
delusional ideas, so falsely teaching many...see Wall Street Journal Feb 1st '02.
2Thes2:9-12
 
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Attn Paul Rader
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Dec '97 Part 2
 
GOD's full salvation plan never tolerates sin, as SA teaches, Jesus' mission
is still saving from sin, delivering from, freeing from, taking away,
so 1Jn2:6; 3:6,9.
 
GOD's clear, precise salvation plan as taught by Christ Jesus has been changed
into a weak formula of half truths, evidence SA, ABC of Salvation.
 
GOD demands we believe as Abraham Rom4:12-16 Jam2, any lack is faithless,
yet SA oversimplifies His truth, leading to a soft, spirit-only-salvation message.
 
GOD demands we believe His voice (His spoken word) today Jn5:24, as the Spirit
is life, not the written word Jn6:63 2Cor3:6, so we must believe as Him
to be in Him 1Jn2:6; 5.
 
GOD's full salvation plan demands obedience for "power into," as Paul, Acts9:6-17
even to see 9:18, confirmed in Jn14 Acts1:8; 5:32 1Pet1:22 obey the Spirit,
so Rom1:16 "into (soul) salvation," Rom10:10.
 
GOD's salvation plan soul saves a few copying Abraham Acts14:22 1Pet1:9
and Job33 Mat16:26 till "believe to the saving of the soul" Heb10:39, then
enduring Mk13:13 Rom8:23-25 1Thes5:23 Heb3:6,14.
 
GOD's full salvation plan is complete for us at the 1st resurrection
Rev20:6 Lk20:35,36 1Cor15:22b, joining Him Rev19:7,8 to judge 1Thes3:13
Rev14; 17:14; 19; 20:4 (3:9), then comes Rev20:11-15, then 2Pet3:10.
 
 Robert Bristow
 
[full salvation] [believe]
 
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The above text was taken from George Ricker Berry's Greek to English Interlinear New Testament;
found at any true Christian bookstore.
 
 
Mat  

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.
14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 But if you do not forgive men
 

18 

35 So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.
 

GOD clearly demands a walk
(not a talk)
for His cleansing & forgiveness
 
 
a. 

Confessing initial belief and need merely invites
the Holy Spirit indwelling 1Cor12:3 Eph3:16; 4:13a.
 
 

b. 

Obedience is essential for Holy Spirit infilling, power.
 
 

c. 

Holy Spirit power is essential to truly hear His voice
into higher levels of belief (or faith), obedience, etc.
 
 

d. 

Holy Spirit power is essential to learn His will,
then be led thru hell to prove ourselves to Him.
 
 

e. 

Holy Spirit power delivers us from evil, into Him,
into Jn15, into His kingdom, His life, His presence/union.

 
[Above left, is a simplistic formula leading to a false security and spirit-only salvation 1Cor3:15; 5:5
..as sin is death Rom6:23a.]
 
GOD's full forgiveness Part 2
 
 

2Chron7...14 "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."
 

GOD, from the beginning, set very hard conditions for His full forgiveness, rarely
taught today, as the Judas church deliberately mistranslated 1Jn1:9 and ignores Mat6; 18 Mk11.
 
GOD in Ex20:20 says "GOD has come to test you...that you may not sin," totally ignored
by the Judas church due to disbelief; very few believe Ex20:20 Jn5:14; 8:11 into Rom3:25 1Jn3:6.
 
GOD in Eph4:32 says "in Christ GOD forgave you," so all our sin is only fully forgiven to a few
truly abiding in Him 1Jn2:6, clearly stated again in Col2:11-13 "in Him... having forgiven all trespasses."
 
GOD confirms this truth repeatedly, but the Judas church teaches 100% against Him and His word.
 
 
GOD in 2Chr7:14 set clear conditions for His full forgiveness, be humble, cease sin, seek His face,
truly attained by very few who humbly obey His voice till copying Abraham, Job, Christ.
 

Ex  
20

20 And Moses said to the people, "Do not fear, for GOD has come to test you, and that His fear may be before you, so that you may not
sin
."
 

Jn  
5

14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, "See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon You."

8  

11 She said, "No one, Lord."  And Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more."

Rom  
3

25 Whom GOD hath set forth a propitiation through faith in His blood,    to    declare    His righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of GOD;
 

Eph  
4

32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as in Christ GOD forgave you.

Col  
2

11 ...in Him you were also circumcised     with     the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
12 Buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised through faith in the working of GOD, who raised Him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses          and          the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses.
 

1Jn  
3

6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

   
 
 
 
 
 
Deut  
34

10 But since then there has not arisen in Israel a prophet like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
 

2Chr  
7

14 If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
 

Job
33

24 Then He is gracious to him, and says, 'Deliver him from going down to the pit; I have found a ransom;'
25 His flesh shall be young like a child's, He shall return to the days of his youth.
26 He shall pray to GOD, and He will delight in him, he shall see His face with joy, for He restores to man His righteousness.
28 He will redeem his soul from going down to the pit, and his life shall see the light.
30 To bring back his soul from the pit, that he may be enlightened with the light of life.
 

42

5 I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees You.
 

Jn
16

16 A little while, and you will not see Me; and again a little while, and you will see Me, because I go to the Father.
 

2Chr 
7

14 If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
 

Lk
13

3 I tell you, no; but unless you all repent you will all likewise perish.
5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
 

Acts 
2

38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Rom6:23)
 

26

18 'To open their eyes, to turn from darkness to light, and the power of satan to GOD, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.'
19 Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision,
20 But declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to GOD, and do works befitting repentance.
 

 
 
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GOD in flesh, Christ Jesus, bore our sin (the cross) Jn19:17, His prime mission,
to save His own only Zech13:9 Mat1:21 thru obeying "sin no more" Jn5:14; 8:11
rarely believed Jn3:16,36 so few saved.
 
GOD's grace, love, power works in Jn14 level for fire baptism, circumcision,
remission, repentance thru blind obedience, copying Christ, till...
as Him 1Jn1:7; 2:6, in Him 1Jn1:5; 2:5; 3:6, of Him 1Jn3:9; 5:4,18-20.
 
GOD alone has authority to aphesis or free us from past sin Acts2:38, 10:43
(Rom3:25; 6:18,22; 7:14 into 24,25; 8:1-4) His meaning, word in Mk3:29
Acts5:31; 13:38; 26:18 Eph1:7 Col1:14 but mistranslated by confused man,
ignored law of text.
 
GOD and His Jn15 level only have authority to aphiemi our sin Mat6:12-15 Jn20:23
if His conditions are met.
 
GOD's clear, inerrant word adheres to His strict law of text yet man has
confused simple apeitheia(eo, es) to change disobey into apisteo(ia, os)
disbelieve...as seen below.
 
GOD used(es) apeitheia, etc. in Eph2:2; 5:6 Col3:6 Rom2:8 1Pet2:7,8; 3:1,20; 4:17
Lk1:17 Rom1:30 2Tim3:2 Tit1:16; 3:3 correctly taught and translated in KJV,
a hard message to all believers, so most 2Thes1:8,9.
 
GOD used(es) apeitheia, etc. in Jn3:36 Acts14:2; 17:5; 19:9 Rom11:30,32; 15:31
Heb3:18; 4:6,11; 11:31 mistaught and mistranslated, so grossly changes
His message, truth, that all believers to obey Him Mat19:17 Heb5:9.
 
GOD clearly demands obedience or wrath, His word is forever, He cannot lie 1Pet1:25.
 
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Dec '97 Part 2
 
GOD's clear, precise salvation plan as taught by Christ Jesus has been changed
into mere head assent and confessing sin, evidence AG's ABC of Salvation.
 
GOD demands we believe as Abraham Rom4:12-16 Jam2, not as demons Jam2:19,
yet AG quotes Jn3:16 incorrectly: Greek says "believing into...may have life" as Jn6:40.
 
GOD demands we believe His voice (His spoken word) today Jn5:24, as the Spirit is life,
not the written word Jn6:63 2Cor3:6, so we must believe as Him to be in Him 1Jn2:6; 5.
 
GOD demands we forgive to be forgiven Mat6:12-15; 18:35 Mk11:25,26 copying Jesus and
Stephen, yet AG teaches mere confession: Greek 1Jn1:9 says "may forgive," GOD cannot lie.
 
GOD demands we walk as Him to be washed with His living, pure water Jn3:5; 4:14 Jer2:13; 17:13
Heb10:22 1Jn1:7, yet AG teaches mere confession: Greek 1Jn1:9 says "may cleanse," so Jn13:8.
 
GOD demands we obey Him into love works Mat5:44-48 and obey Him into faith works Jn8:39,
any lack is sin, missing the mark, or failing His standards or failing His grace.
 
GOD demands we obey Him into life Mat19:17, into just Rom2:13, into right Rom6:16 (thru faith),
into soul salvation Acts14:22 Heb5:9 1Pet1:9, yet AG denies, ignores, rejects His truth.
 
 Robert Bristow
 
 
 
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Mr Bill Bright,
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May '97
 
GOD has pointed to 2Chr7:14 for your personal growth and expected you to
teach others thru CC for Christ, but you currently reject Him.
 
GOD expects total humility, copying Christ Phil2, attained by few who
totally obey His VOICE till dead to their own will Lk12:50; 22:42.
 
GOD expects constant prayer, all day, seeking His divine will, found by
believing and obeying His voice, if truly anointed Jn14 level.
 
GOD expects you to experience 1Jn2:24,27, enabling Eph4:15, growing into
Him thru true repentance of every/all sin Acts26:18 1Jn1:7 (1:5,6).
 
GOD expects you to experience death Rom6 as Christ Lk12:50; 22:42, then
obey His voice to keep your Jn15 level as Christ Mk13:13 Rom10:13.
 
GOD expects you to teach all His truth to prove your faith Jn3:16,36,
joining His true people like Joni Eareckson Tada and David Yongii Cho.
 
 Robert Bristow
 
Mr Bright,
 
Your campus ministers seem to have little or no formal training:
teaching a mere confession salvation, refusing to believe and teach even
basic verses on obedience, Mat19:17 Heb5:9, which are supported by many,
many NT scriptures to obey, love, walk, Rom2:13 Jam2 etc.
 
 R.
 
 
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